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Old 01-18-2007, 09:05 AM
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Im thinking about trying this on my Cranberry tonight before league and was wondering if anyone has any tips on how to get the best results. I would guess the cranberry has over 1000 games on it and may have been cleaned about 3x. Ive never changed the coverstock so it's at OOB plus being shined through use. I prefer not to change the over other then a slight scuff by some scotch brite to open the pores.

Any ideas and tips would be helpful. Thanks.

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Old 01-18-2007, 10:33 AM
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My teamate has a TRACK Exception with alot of games, lost it's reaction. Here is what he did. He put 2 gallons of warm water in a 5 gallon bucket, mixed in well some ivory dish soap then placed ball in side the 5 gallon bucket. He then added hot water and let it set for 45 minutes. All the oil came to the top and he then poured/ skimmed off the oil, and removed the ball. Dried it and applied some nitro cleaner and the ball is Back to original hook. handmeDN
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how long does it take for the ball to dry out?

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Re: Soaking your bowling balls

just make sure you use warm water you dont what the temperature of the ball to change like really fast or you risk cracking the ball. so really hot water is out of the question. I know someone who did that and the ball did crack. so just use warm water and you have nothing to worry about.
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Re: Soaking your bowling balls

I have baked balls and soaked them. As Tweek said, you dont want rapid and dramatic temperature changes.

I prefer soaking now because there is less chance of messing up the ball and because the wife goes ballistic when I put balls in her oven (Oh Gawd...you guys are going to say something about that statement).

TrimMan uses his dishwasher with the dish drying heat turned off and swears by it. I was going to try it but got caught holding a ball above the rack and that was NIXED!

I put some warm water in the tub and let the ball come to temperature. Then I drain it and wipe Dawn dishwashing liquid onto the balls in the tub liberally. Fill the tub with scalding hot water and let sit for 20 min or so. Drain the tub and rinse the balls. Repeat once or twice. Let the balls air dry over night.

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Old 01-18-2007, 07:02 PM
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I put mine in the laundry wash tub (not in the machine!) cover them with hot water and detergent. After a while I add more hot water. I remove them while they are still warm so any oil that was not dissolved by the detergent will wipe off before soaking back in. My water is set at about 160 F. I do dry them with a towel and leave them finger holes down on a towel. Polish if I want but not nec. Sometimes I wash them with something stronger if they have grease/rubber(etc.) marks.
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Re: Soaking your bowling balls

heres what i do........5 gallon bucket warm h20..... 1 cup dawn(environmentally friendly and a great degreaser) mix until suddsy put ball in and let h20 cool.....take the ball out and dry off let holes face down and sit overnight then put coverstock prep on it and happy rollling

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Old 01-19-2007, 02:19 AM
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Re: Soaking your bowling balls

I just regularly clean mine. if need be, the guy at teh proshop has a rejuvenator oven he can bake it in.

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I have had great success in this method. I don't remember who recommended this to me, I just know it was from one of the sites. I have been using the dishwasher for about 2 years now. It also been recommended to make sure you give it 24 hrs before bowling with either method.

By using this method you are not standing over the ball waiting for oil to come out or having to change out the water. Just call me lazy.

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Re: Soaking your bowling balls

I ended up drilling a cobalt pearl instead. But Ive always be interested in doing the dishwasher thing. I might try that tonight and take pics of it.

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Re: Soaking your bowling balls

I am going to try soaking one of my older balls tonight. I have one question. I have finger inserts, will the soaking affect this at all?

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Old 01-23-2007, 07:09 AM
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I am going to try soaking one of my older balls tonight. I have one question. I have finger inserts, will the soaking affect this at all?
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Re: Soaking your bowling balls

I've always baked mine with good results, after the baking I'd get the ball resurfaced.. My question is, after the soaking is that step needed ? I don't recall anyone stating this after soaking a ball... And should you plug the holes up before soaking ? or dose this not make any difference ?
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Old 01-23-2007, 08:12 AM
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I've always baked mine with good results, after the baking I'd get the ball resurfaced.. My question is, after the soaking is that step needed ? I don't recall anyone stating this after soaking a ball... And should you plug the holes up before soaking ? or dose this not make any difference ?
If a ball is polished I perfer to make sure it is removed before any of the methods are used. I'm just trying to make sure the pores are open first. Then if needed, resurface it. Never did cover up the holes when I did soak 'em.

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Thanks Trim.. I just wasn't sure on plugging the holes acount of the water getting in them and maybe inside the core area if that is possible or not.. I just might have to give this soaking thing a try.. baking was good, litter took to flippen long, so what the heck.. Again, thanks..
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Re: Soaking your bowling balls

i just use silly puddy to cover the holes. It works and pops right off when you pull it out.

Never have to replace tape or anything.
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Old 01-23-2007, 11:44 AM
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but my roommate also has a 5lb block of it.

it might take two eggs worth of puddy to cover the fingers and the thumb holes.
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Re: Soaking your bowling balls

Hey! I did the dishwasher thing yesterday, with nothing but the bowling ball and orange clean electrasol dishwashing soap. Half way through the cycle I opened the door and the water was merky, like the lake when it turns over, and you could smell the lane oil. finished the cycle, let ball stand in the electric oven on warm with the holes facing downward, for 4 hours. Then I let it cool down the rest of the day outside room temperature. Used react-aclean compound on the surface with my spinner then Bowled with it last night. Ball reacted like original (OOB). When I got home I did the rest of my balls the same way, Works Great! OH! I shot 212,218,189 = 619 on synthetic lanes/Sport Shot. handmeDN
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It may dis-color the ball a little, just a warning. It happened to a couple of mine. But it really takes the oil out.
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that phasing/discoloring goes away though. Its moisture in the coverstock.
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Hey! I did the dishwasher thing yesterday, with nothing but the bowling ball and orange clean electrasol dishwashing soap. Half way through the cycle I opened the door and the water was merky, like the lake when it turns over, and you could smell the lane oil. finished the cycle, let ball stand in the electric oven on warm with the holes facing downward, for 4 hours. Then I let it cool down the rest of the day outside room temperature. Used react-aclean compound on the surface with my spinner then Bowled with it last night. Ball reacted like original (OOB). When I got home I did the rest of my balls the same way, Works Great! OH! I shot 212,218,189 = 619 on synthetic lanes/Sport Shot. handmeDN
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I have had great success in this method. I don't remember who recommended this to me, I just know it was from one of the sites. I have been using the dishwasher for about 2 years now. It also been recommended to make sure you give it 24 hrs before bowling with either method.

By using this method you are not standing over the ball waiting for oil to come out or having to change out the water. Just call me lazy.

Rev, I've been fortunate with my wife, the next one may be hers.

I was actually the one who started the dishwasher method back in the Blue Days of BR. I was ridiculed for quite some time about that one, but I still use the method today. Just be sure of not to preheat the water and use no heat dry or remove before the dry cycle. also, NEVER use dishwasher detergent cuz it's full of bleach.

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I was actually the one who started the dishwasher method back in the Blue Days of BR. I was ridiculed for quite some time about that one, but I still use the method today. Just be sure of not to preheat the water and use no heat dry or remove before the dry cycle. also, NEVER use dishwasher detergent cuz it's full of bleach.
Here's where I get confused. I've heard different versions of the dishwasher method on this board and others. You say don't use dishwasher detergent. Do you use regular dishwashing liquid? No soap at all? I really want to try this method, but obviously I don't want to screw up my equipment.
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Here's where I get confused. I've heard different versions of the dishwasher method on this board and others. You say don't use dishwasher detergent. Do you use regular dishwashing liquid? No soap at all? I really want to try this method, but obviously I don't want to screw up my equipment.
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Here's where I get confused. I've heard different versions of the dishwasher method on this board and others. You say don't use dishwasher detergent. Do you use regular dishwashing liquid? No soap at all? I really want to try this method, but obviously I don't want to screw up my equipment.
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I have dishwashered a few balls and i do it just like TrimMan. They always come out great.
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that phasing/discoloring goes away though. Its moisture in the coverstock.
I'm a little new at this so maybe I went overboard. I baked it for a little while then I soaked it in a bucket of hot water and Dawn. Now it has a "white-ish" cloudy color to it. It's been 3 days and it's still there; how long does it usually take to go away ?
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It's been about 2 weeks now. The ball reaction came back great - but the color didn't. I'm wondering if it's because I used the Dawn w/ Oxy in it.
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I have been soaking my equip since i started bowling. There are a couple of things to note.water over 140 degrees can be dangerous & harmful to ur equip. I do a maximum of 120. If u bake a ball, most rejuvenators only go to 98 degrees. I live in new Orleans where we have 9 month summers and temps reaching mid 90s. I jus leave em outside in the open (do not leave in bag or trunk). Both methods have worked great for me and I have never damaged any of stuff. Oh yeah, & wen I soak mines, I use no soap and leave it In the water until it reaches almost room temp but about 20 degrees hotter.


I've heard slot of ppl complain about there brand new high performance equipment not working or "dead" after 50 games. High performance balls soaks up crazy oil and proper maintainance is required. I never question the companies that make these balls. Its not them.. Its you! LOL

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I have been soaking my equip since i started bowling. There are a couple of things to note.water over 140 degrees can be dangerous & harmful to ur equip. I do a maximum of 120. If u bake a ball, most rejuvenators only go to 98 degrees. I live in new Orleans where we have 9 month summers and temps reaching mid 90s. I jus leave em outside in the open (do not leave in bag or trunk). Both methods have worked great for me and I have never damaged any of stuff. Oh yeah, & wen I soak mines, I use no soap and leave it In the water until it reaches almost room temp but about 20 degrees hotter.


I've heard slot of ppl complain about there brand new high performance equipment not working or "dead" after 50 games. High performance balls soaks up crazy oil and proper maintainance is required. I never question the companies that make these balls. Its not them.. Its you! LOL

I have 2 of the Ebonite One's, which I've never soaked. One of them has 2 seasons on it and it performs like when I first got it. The other has only about 30 games.
I have a cleaner that I make myself that does a great job of keeping them clean. I hope it is removing some of the oil as well. Do any of you think that is even possible?
Also, we use very fine saw dust for drying up oil on garage floors, It does a really god job. I wonder if packing a ball in the saw dust would remove the oil! What do you think?
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the coverstock of a bowling ball is more or less like a sponge. Cleaning ur equip after a series will help drasticallykeep ur ball performing well. As for the sawdust... I don't think it will work to well unless u get the oil to expunge from the coverstock to the surface first. If I were to experiment with the sawdust stuff, I would first put the ball in an oven at about 90 degrees for 15-20 minutes then layer the ball with the sawdust. Then I would wash it off with warm water. U can experiment with it but note that heat will open the pores of the coverstock and that's wat u want to do when cleaning any ball.

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the coverstock of a bowling ball is more or less like a sponge. Cleaning ur equip after a series will help drasticallykeep ur ball performing well. As for the sawdust... I don't think it will work to well unless u get the oil to expunge from the coverstock to the surface first. If I were to experiment with the sawdust stuff, I would first put the ball in an oven at about 90 degrees for 15-20 minutes then layer the ball with the sawdust. Then I would wash it off with warm water. U can experiment with it but note that heat will open the pores of the coverstock and that's wat u want to do when cleaning any ball.

Sounds like heat is the trick! I assume then that when you soak the ball, it's in warm water. Is there usually a lot of oil floating on the water, or just a trace amount?
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When you soak a ball, you will see the coverstock bubble up. If you run your finger over the bubbles you will see the oil come from the bubble. Also, when you,re soaking the ball, you will see a fair amount of oil floating on the surface. Looks jus like oil when from a boat motor floating on the surface.

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When you soak a ball, you will see the coverstock bubble up. If you run your finger over the bubbles you will see the oil come from the bubble. Also, when you,re soaking the ball, you will see a fair amount of oil floating on the surface. Looks jus like oil when from a boat motor floating on the surface.
Good explanation, I do know about the boat motor oil for sure!
The homemade cleaner that I use does a great job, even belt barks, and tape residue. Like I said I have 2 seasons on one of the balls, and the back end, and carry are still really good. I'd say I probably need to soak it, but I'm almost afraid I'll screw it up! Question; Should I just Wait till it quits working? Two seasons are a lot of games, so it should have a fair amount if oil in it. The other "ONE" is polished, and has no more than 15 games, so I'll leave it alone for awhile.
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I'm a little new at this so maybe I went overboard. I baked it for a little while then I soaked it in a bucket of hot water and Dawn. Now it has a "white-ish" cloudy color to it. It's been 3 days and it's still there; how long does it usually take to go away ?
Sometimes it doesn't come out at all. I had a ball in my locker that just got cold, and the haze has never left it.
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Good explanation, I do know about the boat motor oil for sure!
The homemade cleaner that I use does a great job, even belt barks, and tape residue. Like I said I have 2 seasons on one of the balls, and the back end, and carry are still really good. I'd say I probably need to soak it, but I'm almost afraid I'll screw it up! Question; Should I just Wait till it quits working? Two seasons are a lot of games, so it should have a fair amount if oil in it. The other "ONE" is polished, and has no more than 15 games, so I'll leave it alone for awhile.

If its performing to your likings then jus leave it the way it is. Soaking or baking it may cause undesired reactions such as rolling early or going Brooklyn and becomes uncontrollable or overly aggressive. But of course polish could cure that.

Also, high and mid performance varies in maintnance. So mid range balls don't require soaking and/or baking as often or at all. That is why mid range balls are desired benchmark balls.

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it's the heat that gets the oil out.
oil and water don't mix so the hot water just washes away the oil that gets pulled out, but like the rev man i have to do it under the cloak of darkness otherwise the wife will start in on me......" what, you can put your bowling ball in there, but you can't put a dish in there ? " something like that .......


i try to plug the holes, but water getting inside doesnt hurt it. you just got to let it air dry for a while
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As far as using sawdust, not sure about that but I do know that Trim, I do believe was using kitty litter to exstract oil from his bowling balls.. Takes little more time then soaking or baking, but he said it worked.. I soak mine now, with just a drop or two of regular Dawn to help break up the oil.. works great..

On edit: If water would get into the core, would this be a problem ?
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Last question I have on the subject, I promise! If the cover stock soaks up oil like a sponge, why doesn't it soak up the water?
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I have never had a problem soaking a ball...even an old Quantum with a crack around the pin. I'm sure the ball soaks some water, but water evaporates pretty much 100%.

Soak on Sun, bowl on Tue. No probs.
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As far as using sawdust, not sure about that but I do know that Trim, I do believe was using kitty litter to exstract oil from his bowling balls.. Takes little more time then soaking or baking, but he said it worked.. I soak mine now, with just a drop or two of regular Dawn to help break up the oil.. works great..

On edit: If water would get into the core, would this be a problem ?
It's been a while since I 've used any kitty litter. It works, but it takes too long.

Now it's strictly the dishwasher. I wear the pants in my house. :iconbigg:
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For some reason, I have more fun loading balls in the dishwasher than loading dishes in it!

My wife just shakes her head at me..............
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I have recently started this process, I actually boiled water and then let it cool and then soak the ball. I actually spoke directly to Brunswick on this and tehy have done extensive studies, on soaking and baking and have found they both work the best, but they did advise me to put the ball in a garbage bag and then soak, they dont have concrete info but have reason to believe that water can effect the weight. Just thought I would share.

About the dishwasher, how can you tell when you have extracted all the oil? with soaking and a bag, I can take the ball out and see if there is any oil coming out this way I can get it all, so how do you know if you have removed all the oil?
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About the dishwasher, how can you tell when you have extracted all the oil? with soaking and a bag, I can take the ball out and see if there is any oil coming out this way I can get it all, so how do you know if you have removed all the oil?
I don't think there is a good way to know without doing it twice. But I suspect your ball cover will be in better shape regardless if you got it all. If you throw that ball (dull cover) 3 games every week, I think once every 3-4 months would be plenty.
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for those wanting to try the kitty litter method,
five gallon bucket, place ball in cover with litter/oil dry, till ball is covered completely, 1500 wat heat lamp, about 4 feet above and let it go, will pretty much do the trick within 24 hours
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